is tough to go back on. >> hillary clinton is second after vice president biden. a lot of people have never heard of her. why do people like her? >> she said that financial melt down there was a culprit and they had to pay. there was 100 pictures of her on that cover, and we knew she was becoming famous, but there is that element where she is the only one that made it her business to come take on the banks. >> and i have to say, again, we're talking about 2016 and we're not talking about joe biden. with pundants and democrats for years. >> at least this week we saw him. we have not seen him be active on syria or iran -- >> he is in china right now. >> every time we see him he sticks his foot in his mouth. >> i believe that biden would be a very serious contender if hillary clinton decides not to run. i think it's hard for a vice president, and -- >> there is a piece of polling, clinton 63%, biden, 12%, that is a huge drop off, 63 to 12. let's talk about the sound of joe biden, what he said in japan. headlines are mostly about this comment he made to japanese women